Subject: RE: Elk Shouder Season for sale
From: "Hagener, Jeff" <>
Date: 9/23/2016 8:34 AM
To: Kathryn QannaYahu <>, "Bullock, Governor" <>, "Volesky, Mike" <>, "McDonald, Ken" <>
CC: "Aasheim, Ron" <>, "Arnold, Randy" <>

Fish, Wildlife and Parks (FWP) has received a number of emails concerning an advertisement in local newspapers for elk hunts on private land during a particular shoulder season. The opportunity offered includes a fee. Other than the time when they occur and the restrictions to private land, shoulder seasons are no different than elk season during archery and general rifle seasons.  Just as landowners can, if they choose to charge for access then, they can charge for access during a shoulder season.  Fortunately, charging for access during shoulder seasons is the exception, rather than the rule.


Shoulder seasons are intended as another tool for private land owners to help manage elk numbers in hunting districts where they are over population objective. Even though FWP has repeatedly said that everyone, including landowners, is going to have to be part of the solution, and have encouraged landowners to allow access, some may still choose to charge for access. 


To respond specifically to the question asked by some on the legality of this landowner’s offering:

No, it is not illegal for a landowner to rent a cabin and/or charge an access fee to hunt on his property.  That is no different than a landowner renting his property for grazing or harvesting a crop.  FWP does not condone access fees, but they are not prohibited by law and are not something FWP can regulate.


The Department and Commission must follow statutes and listen to all constituents when addressing issues.  Current statutes (87-1-321-323 MCA) require the department to manage game populations in a sustained manner and specifically, “the department shall consider the specific concerns of private landowners when determining sustainable numbers …” 


As elk populations have been increasing in several areas game damage complaints have steadily increased.  In order to address this situation the department formed a working group to seek methods to address the issue.  The result of this working group was the shoulder season proposal which went through a rigorous public process before Commission approval.  Many people commented on the shoulder season proposal, both in support and in opposition.  The Commission ultimately amended the original proposal and approved what is now in place.  It is important to note that the current shoulder seasons are almost exclusively on private lands and have specific performance criteria that must be met for the shoulder seasons to continue. There are Commission-adopted harvest objectives and season set up for shoulder seasons that address this issue.  Basically, more elk have to be harvested than are being recruited into the population if FWP is to continue with a shoulder season in a hunting district.  If charging for access, or limiting access, or another similar circumstance, limits elk harvest to such a degree that harvest objectives are not met after three years (the evaluation period for shoulder season success), then FWP will not propose to continue the shoulder season and it will be lost as a management tool.


In the case of the newspaper advertisement that has been referred to it should be noted that this is one small landowner within HD 217. The district consists of over 100,000 acres of both private and public land.  This particular landowner has rented his cabin and allowed fee access to his acreage for several years – this is not new due to the shoulder season.  It should be noted that several other landowners within HD 217 who had either not allowed, or greatly restricted, access in the past opened their properties this year during the early shoulder season to harvest and disperse elk off of unharvested crops.  Although reports are that not many elk were harvested on the private properties (current reports are that 17 elk have been harvested on private land), elk were dispersed off of those private lands.


By this time last year, Region 2 had 38 active game damage hunts for elk on private lands. In stark contrast this fall, throughout R2 there have been limited elk damage complaints within HD’s that had shoulder seasons.  On the other hand, several game damage complaints were received in HD’s that did not have shoulder seasons.  Anecdotal reports from some archers on public lands surrounding shoulder season areas were that more elk were seen on the public lands than in several previous years.



M. Jeff Hagener, Director

MT Fish, Wildlife & Parks

1420 East 6th Avenue

P.O. Box 200701

Helena, MT  59620-0701

406-444-3186 office

406-444-4952 fax


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From: Kathryn QannaYahu []
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 1:47 PM
To: Bullock, Governor; Hagener, Jeff; Volesky, Mike; McDonald, Ken
Subject: Elk Shouder Season for sale


Dear Governor Bullock and FWP, this just came to my attention in the Gazette. This is of great concern to me and others, as you know, from our public comments submitted on Elk Shoulder Seasons, taking advantage of shoulder seasons to profit from a public resource, capitalizing on this so called management.

In looking the phone number up, I saw a bunch of other ads.

Here is an ad for shoulder seasons for sale in the Gazette and a lot of other papers in MT. It's in the Chronicle, the Helena IR, Missoulian, Flathead Beacon, Hungry Horse Beacon, Daily Interlake, BigFork Eagle.

In 2013, the same phone number ran an ad for bull elk in the Missoulian

"NEED Private Land Elk & Deer Hunt. Lots of bull elk, near Drummond, 3 days, $750, 5 days $1000, includes cabin lodging. 406-360-7361"

Thank you,
Kathryn QannaYahu